So, I don’t think I’ve ever walked out of a Pagan Society talk before. But I did tonight, this doesn’t reflect on the quality of the talk because it was actually rather good, but more on the fact that I could feel myself becoming more and more of a twat and figured that El Presidente didn’t deserve it.
Western Religious Philosophy seems to explain a lot of why Dawkins dismisses paganism. But more on that, it didn’t help that we spent some time dwelling on the basic hypocrisies of the Christian faith. If you’re going to believe in an omni-everything God then you can’t turn round and decide that you know better than him which would seem to me to be the basis for most of the theological debates within Christianity, either admit that he doesn’t exist or admit that you don’t know better than him but would you bloody well make your minds up?
Could really do with having American Dan here at this point, such a refreshing Christian. (This is not to do down the rest of my Christian mates, just I find his Christianity refreshing).
My next point is that Paganism is not an excuse to turn your back on science, ooh lets mystify everything within obscurity and explain and know nothing…which seems to be what Christopher? Christian? Cleary thinks. To be honest I can imagine that theres a fair few pagans who subscribe to the science is bad bracket. I just bubble up under that. I swear if the gods and wights and all the rest of the bloody kami in the world had left me alone I’d be a humanist. Can’t stand fucking Dawkins for a lot of things but Unweaving the Rainbow does at least point out that awe and knowledge can actually go hand in hand… oooh big surprise there.
What is with this modern day desire to split the two, they are not distinct things, science at it’s base has a wonder for the natural world, a wonder which the kami in it add to but they aren’t opposed to each other, religion and science, they really do go hand in hand. The world is beautiful and full of mystery around us and I believe that it would be still even if I could explain the existence of all the kami in the beautiful mountain. I can give you a fairly good precis of the rain cycle this doesn’t stop me from dancing in it. Why do people persist in believing that understanding somehow ends a blissful ignorance? Ignorance can be happy or unhappy but finding out how things work is always happy, adding to your knowledge, how does this make things unhappy? How does this detract from the world around us?
Why dear gods why can’t people reconcile this artificial split between science and religion and why can’t Christians embrace their faith publicly and whole-heartedly.
Gragh! I wish I knew where this real annoyance and anger was coming from, it’s completely unnecessary. Better go and apologise to people now, I can hear PS ending…